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The heading is half English, half Greek!<\/p>\n

It could have been Arabic!<\/p>\n

Just like the original language of the Quran!<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

Anyway; I wrote about the Surah An-Nisa [Translator<\/em>\u2019<\/em>s note: Fourth chapter of the Quran, with 176 verses, some of which make references to women<\/em>] in another article published on this page…<\/p>\n

No form of \u201cviolence against women\u201d is acceptable!<\/p>\n

It is heresy, deviance…<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

Where are such views unacceptable?<\/p>\n

In modern states of law.<\/p>\n

In real democracies…<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

However, the 34th<\/sup> verse of An-Nisa is quite comfortably implemented in countries ruled by Sharia law.<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

Another question \u201cSir, is freedom of thought only for the leftist?\u201d…<\/p>\n

Of course not!<\/p>\n

In cases where a state is secular and democratic and is ruled by law, as in the case of the TRNC, should thinking and speaking like our Mufti be banned?<\/p>\n

Definitely not!<\/p>\n

One should be free to believe in what the Surah An-Nisa commands!<\/p>\n

You are free to believe but should you \u201cimplement\u201d it, this would constitute \u201cbattery\u201d, an offence punishable by imprisonment!<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

Well of course you are free to \u201cbelieve\u201d [whatever you want<\/em>]!<\/p>\n

In fact, you can express your beliefs if you want to!<\/p>\n

But you cannot do this as the \u201cstate\u201d, \u201con behalf of the state\u201d, or in the name of \u201cGod\u2019s will\u201d!<\/p>\n

This is the weight of the matter!<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

The head of the TRNC Department of Religious Affairs has been appointed from Turkey.<\/p>\n

He was granted citizenship illegally…<\/p>\n

We are already outside the boundaries of international law but this person was hastily granted citizenship in \u201cviolation\u201d of existing laws which is a whole other issue…<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

However, the real mistake and of course which constitutes the very definition of occupation is that the person in question carries out <\/strong>\u201c<\/strong>sharia<\/strong>\u201d<\/strong> propaganda<\/strong> on the <\/strong>\u201c<\/strong>state paycheck<\/strong>\u201d<\/strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n

As a state official, he is behaving extremely “contrary” to the secular, democratic, state of law…<\/strong><\/p>\n

And all persons or authorities of the state are afraid to utter a single word about it!<\/strong><\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

Otherwise, Cypriot tolerance would dictate you say, \u201c…My dear Ahmet, go and preach on how your congregation should have sex, we don\u2019t care!\u201d<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

Or dear Ahmet Hodja, come out boldly and openly say, \u201c…Long live Sharia\u201d, so that we all know!<\/p>\n

Don\u2019t be afraid, you won’t “hear a peep” from Ersin mersin [Ersin Tatar<\/em>] or \u00dcnal m\u00fcnal… [UBP leader <\/em>\u00dc<\/em>nal <\/em>\u00dc<\/em>stel<\/em>]<\/p>\n

As the Cypriots say, \u201c…If their golos [bottoms<\/em>] are on the isgemle [chair<\/em>], they are All Right Jack!\u201d<\/p>\n

Sorry!<\/p>\n

Let me translate it for you!<\/p>\n

The only thing they are concerned about is that their seats are secure!<\/p>\n

They won\u2019t give a damn even if you poked fun at the entire community!<\/p>\n

In fact, keep going Ahmet, don\u2019t be scared!<\/p>\n

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Could Tatar be relieved of his post?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Would you say, \u201cNo this is not possible!\u201d?<\/p>\n

Is there anything left in this country which \u201cis impossible, can\u2019t be done or they can\u2019t do\u201d?<\/p>\n

I say it is definitely \u201cpossible\u201d!<\/p>\n

Oh sorry, we didn\u2019t explain \u201cwhat is possible\u201d, did we?<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

We wrote it in the heading but still, let me quickly explain!<\/p>\n

Could Ersin Tatar be relieved from his duty as \u201cPresident\u201d?<\/p>\n

You could say, \u201cwhat\u2019s the use of such a thing or it\u2019s not possible…\u201d but it is very much possible in this country…<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

And do you know what is the most painful?<\/p>\n

If something like this happened, let me speak openly, if someone from Turkey said, \u201cRemove this man\u201d; no one who stands together with Tatar today or those around him could \u201cobject\u201d!<\/p>\n

You wouldn\u2019t find anyone who could object!<\/p>\n

The duty of defending him, \u201cI\u2019m sad to say,\u201d would fall to the real children of this country, \u201cthe leftists\u201d!<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

Since we\u2019re on the subject let me answer the question, are they relieving Tatar from duty?<\/p>\n

A rumour is circulating, and the fact that there are such rumours clearly shows the level the office has fallen to…<\/p>\n

Could Tatar really be relieved from duty?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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It\u2019s difficult to say that \u201che would be relieved as easily as he was appointed\u201d. After all, he was brought to the post through \u201can election\u201d.<\/p>\n

Besides, since there are no such prior examples, we have no experience in \u201cthe procedure of relieving [the incumbent<\/em>]\u201d\u2026<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

However, such a process could be launched if his \u201chealth deteriorates\u201d…<\/p>\n

Is it that hard to prove his health has gone bad?<\/p>\n

Arriving at such a conclusion would not be too difficult if one would listen to several of his speeches or take a look at some of his photographs taken during the fire [forest fire in 2022<\/em>] or at funerals where he is seen smirking\u2026<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

But truly that is not the issue!<\/p>\n

The issue is about the state of which the country and the post he holds has come to or been brought to.<\/p>\n

If Turkey were to send instructions today, ordering \u201cTatar to step down\u201d; not a single member from UBP [National Unity Party<\/em>], DP [Democratic Party<\/em>] or YDP [Rebirth Party<\/em>] would question, \u201cwhat\u2019s happening, what are you doing?\u201d<\/p>\n

And life would go on the next day!<\/p>\n

And even Ersin Tatar would not be able to ask \u201cwhat is happening?\u201d!<\/p>\n

This is what is painful…<\/p>\n

What is painful is the sorrowful state we are in, to which we have been brought to!<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

Equal and sovereign?<\/p>\n

And brother Tahsin [Ertu<\/em>\u011f<\/em>rulo<\/em>\u011f<\/em>lu<\/em>] says, \u201cThere will never be negotiations for a federation again\u201d!<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

Man, you are strictly following orders such as, \u201csit down, lay down, get up, speak up, shut up,\u201d; were they to remove Mr Tatar from his post, you’re in a state where you’ll deny the next day that he ever existed, asking, \u201cWho is Tatar?\u201d. Will you be resuming your struggle in the mountains if they tell you, \u201cYes we\u2019re going back to discussing federation?\u201d [Translator<\/em>\u2019<\/em>s note: reference to Ertu<\/em>\u011f<\/em>rulo<\/em>\u011f<\/em>lu<\/em>\u2019<\/em>s remarks during the 2004 Annan Plan period when he vowed to continue his struggle against a federation even if it meant taking up arms in the mountains<\/em>]<\/p>\n

For God\u2019s sake stop it!<\/p>\n

What sovereignty, what equality?<\/p>\n

Don\u2019t force me to question \u201cyour M\u00fcft\u00fc\u2019s equality and sovereignty\u201d<\/p>\n

A secular state of law or a Sharia state?<\/strong><\/p>\n

 <\/p>\n

There is the An-Nisa Chapter in the Quran…<\/p>\n

Verse 34 of the chapter says the following:<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

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\u201cMen are the caretakers of women, as men have been provisioned by Allah over women and tasked with supporting them and the family financially.\u00a0 Righteous women are devoutly obedient and, as Allah protects them, they protect the \u201cinvisible\u201d. (What is the invisible? According to Islamic belief, the invisible realm is the invisible, incomprehensible realm, that is, the realm that cannot be perceived with the mind and the five senses. So women become invisible in some way…) And if you sense ill-conduct from your women in the marriage, advise them \u02f9first\u02fa, \u02f9if they persist,\u02fa do not share their beds. \u02f9But if they still persist,\u02fa then \u201cbeat\u201d them. (In some well-intentioned Turkish explanations, the word “lightly” has been added before the word “beat”…). But if they change their ways, do not be unjust to them. Surely Allah is Most High, All-Great.\u201d<\/p>\n

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-*-*-<\/p>\n

This is what Sharia commands…<\/p>\n

A woman can be \u201cbeaten\u201d!<\/p>\n

Women \u201cmust obey men”…<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

Sir, is it right to defend this?<\/p>\n

I don’t think so!<\/p>\n

I believe it is wrong!<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

Do Ahmet, Ersin, \u00dcnal, Ali and Veli adhere to such views<\/em>?<\/p>\n

Are Sibel, Ay\u015fe and Fatma fine with it?<\/p>\n

Well, I really don\u2019t care!<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

However, if a person who has been appointed to a public office as a civil servant or as someone in charge and who is on the payroll of a secular state of law, defends this argument, then would that person not be committing an \u201coffense\u201d?<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

\u201cYou should beat a woman if she doesn\u2019t obey you\u201d but \u201chit lightly my brother\u201d…<\/p>\n

Is that it?<\/p>\n

-*-*-<\/p>\n

It shouldn\u2019t be!<\/p>\n

And the head of Religious Affairs Department, could think like this as \u201cAhmet\u201d but not as the \u201cDirector\u201d…<\/p>\n

He should resign immediately and yes, he should go back to his home…<\/p>\n

Go home Ahmet!<\/p>\n

 <\/p>\n

[Photo insert: An old newspaper clipping from 1951 that reports on the departure of Mufti Celal Menzilcio<\/em>\u011f<\/em>lu from the island who was sent back to Istanbul after insulting Atat<\/em>\u00fc<\/em>rk and the lifestyle of Turkish Cypriots<\/em>]<\/p>\n

Long live Mustafa Kemal [Atat<\/em>\u00fc<\/em>rk<\/em>] Pasha!<\/p>\n

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Source: IF THEIR GOLOS ON THE ISGEMLE, THEY ARE ALL RIGHT JACK!<\/a><\/p>\n

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